Unlocking production planning with embedded PPDS
In this webinar, you get a clear introduction to embedded PPDS in SAP S/4HANA, see live planning scenarios in SAP Fiori, and learn how end to end production planning can boost delivery performance, simplify scheduling, and prepare your move from SAP APO to a future ready setup.
Why production planning matters
Robust production planning is vital when networks grow complex, lead times are tight and customers expect reliable delivery. This session explains why spreadsheets and rough weekly plans are no longer enough, and how a transparent, constraint aware plan helps you balance capacity, materials and service without exhausting planners.
What embedded PPDS offers
You are introduced to embedded PPDS in SAP S/4HANA and how it connects with SAP IBP, advanced ATP and the core ERP. The webinar walks through new Fiori based apps for material coverage, capacity utilization and the advanced scheduling board, plus innovations like flexible constraints, tank planning and the PP optimizer.
What you will learn in the webinar
Through a live demo story, you follow a planner from high level stock and capacity checks into detailed scheduling, alert handling and heuristic based rescheduling. You also get an outlook on the SAP roadmap, including closer SAP IBP integration, stronger analytics and KPI tracking for plan adherence and throughput.
Unlocking production planning with embedded PPDS
In this webinar, you get a clear introduction to embedded PPDS in SAP S/4HANA, see live planning scenarios in SAP Fiori, and learn how end to end production planning can boost delivery performance, simplify scheduling, and prepare your move from SAP APO to a future ready setup.
Why production planning matters
Robust production planning is vital when networks grow complex, lead times are tight and customers expect reliable delivery. This session explains why spreadsheets and rough weekly plans are no longer enough, and how a transparent, constraint aware plan helps you balance capacity, materials and service without exhausting planners.
What embedded PPDS offers
You are introduced to embedded PPDS in SAP S/4HANA and how it connects with SAP IBP, advanced ATP and the core ERP. The webinar walks through new Fiori based apps for material coverage, capacity utilization and the advanced scheduling board, plus innovations like flexible constraints, tank planning and the PP optimizer.
What you will learn in the webinar
Through a live demo story, you follow a planner from high level stock and capacity checks into detailed scheduling, alert handling and heuristic based rescheduling. You also get an outlook on the SAP roadmap, including closer SAP IBP integration, stronger analytics and KPI tracking for plan adherence and throughput.
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Hello and very warm welcome today to Unlocking the Future of Manufacturing from Munich here. We see that we do have quite a broad audience today with close to 100 participants spread more or less all over the world. So thank you very much for joining. We've seen out of Congo, we've seen out of Brazil, we are pretty much, let's say, all over the world in that webinar. The majority joining from Europe, but a very warm welcome from our side to the first session of that webinar series where we will be exploring today what EPBDS actually is. So because it's the first session today also setting a little bit of the basis with regards to what it actually is, what it looks like, what it feels like also what have been recent innovations that SAP launched as well as an outlook with regards to the robot. So far from my side, when we look at, let's say, who will be hosting your session today, we're looking at the following people. Give me just one second. Technicalities here. But it should be working any minute. There we go. Thank you. Good. Aside from myself joining today, we have as well, Sven, who's standing with me. So first of all, a couple of words to myself. My name is Jens. I've been in consultancy for more than 10 years now. And yeah, very much center around end to end planning started actually with production planning. And more than happy to guide you through today's webinar together with Sven. Sven and Thomas. Thomas, unfortunately, is on sick leave. But nevertheless, thank you very much for the preparation, Thomas. So therefore, Sven will be supporting me today on my side. Don't be scared. We're holding our mobile phones here because that's, let's say, our flicker, how we flick the slides. It's not that we are, let's say, holding on to these. But Sven, more to you now. Thanks. Yeah, thank you. A warm welcome also from my side. My name is Sven. I have around seven years of experience within supply chain planning and with a huge focus on operational planning with PPDS. I'm super excited about that webinar today and also about all the participants and that we got so much attention and looking so much forward to the remaining webinar and giving you some more insights about what EPPDES. What EPPDES is capable of what EPPDES is capable of and also giving you an outlook what you can expect in the future when it comes to operational planning with EPPDES. Back to you, Jens. Yeah, thank you, Sven. Aside Sven supporting me today, we also have a good crowd of people that are sitting on that yellow dot up there in Copenhagen. So say hello to Tue, to Benjamin and to Thomas. They will also be taking care of your questions whilst we go along. Looking at the agenda, we have a Q&A at the end, but they will be trying to support already during the session. And as I said, today is very much around setting the basics for sub PPDS. And therefore, we also encourage you to raise questions. There's no such thing as a stupid question. So please feel free to post them whilst we go. And as you can see, we do have Copenhagen on one side broadcasting. On the other hand, we're broadcasting out of Munich. And let's say these are two of our offices. Copenhagen is say, let's say where our Danish heritage comes from, where we were found 1996, so close to 30 years ago, with quite a success story of an average growth rate of 20% and a European as well as global footprint with also offices in the US to support projects there. We're completely employee owned. So we are dedicated to delivering quality and making sure our customers gain value from what we do. And in the German or the Dachau region also having around 150 consultants by now. So very much wrapping up there, one of our growth markets to support our customers, which is also why we've decided today to broadcast out of Munich. Looking at, let's say, what actually drives us and how we are working in projects. Compared to classical consultancy, we like to do things sometimes a little different. And that starts very much, let's say, with real changes rolled up, not rolled up. What do we mean by that? That means if you do a project top down, you get your management commitment and you make sure that everyone, let's say, is following that leadership perspective. That's good. And I think that's also necessary. But the question is, is that a long lasting implementation of a process, an organization, or an IT system. And therefore, we encourage everyone and we want to make sure that we are from a change perspective, getting everyone involved who will be working with a solution, the process, or the new organization afterwards. And this is one of our key essences, making sure that we deliver with change to make the necessary impact. But also want to facilitate that through correct leadership. Leaders are social architect, apologies, of energy and passion. We want to make sure that they give the right values, the right boundaries and the right empowerment to the people so they have the necessary skills on one side, but also the energy and passion and going along and dragging along the project. So we want to make sure that we deliver value. If one person at the top has two hands, 10 people at the bottom have another 20 hands to support and get things done. A detailed plan is an insult to the future might look a little puzzled when it comes to IT implementations. We obviously make plans. But let's be honest, you can't plan everything. So therefore, we're very much within our project also trying to implement agile approaches, trying to make sure that whilst we go along, we need to reprioritize and rethink potential solutions. But we do have clear design decisions for that in order to know which decision needs to be done at which point of time. And last but not least, if you implement something which solves the problem, but it's super complicated, you might have the necessary people to support that solution right after the project ends. But once one or two people are leaving the organization, once one or two people are gone, no one understands these complicated solutions anymore. And therefore, we're trying to simplify solutions and making sure we get a good solution that is also very much understandable and long lasting and making sure that we still transform long lasting organizations. And this helps us, let's say to transform different parts of the organization, starting with leadership and change, as I've already said at the beginning, to make sure that we have the organization enabled, we've got the right perspective, and also the necessary focus of the organization. Strategy and transformation very much goes along with that. We do have a good problem. big team support in that which not only let's say focuses on commercial growth at topics but also the general strategy with regards to product portfolio etc just to give you one or two examples digitalization and IT IT security for instance starts to become more and more of a topic which we as implement are supporting our customers with growth and innovation strategies which markets to go which product portfolios and last but not least and this is probably very much I'll go and to discuss today operations and efficiency how can I plan properly how can I make sure that I deliver what I promise to my customers and in order to do that we obviously all know that we do have to do that on different levels starting at the strategic or the tactical sales and operational planning handing down to tactical master planning what do I do in which month in which weeks hand in that in the operational planning and scheduling for the next couple of weeks making a more detailed plan with regards to what are my relevant lead times what do I need to plan in detail in order to get the right components making sure also my semi finished is produced do I have that all aligned with my customer needs and my customer orders and last but not least handing over a proper plan to execution to make sure that it can be produced and it can be delivered and in order to do that as I said at the beginning we do have around 1600 consultants management consultants out of which 650 more or less in the supply chain supply chain management area and out of these again this is let's say the core of the focus that we're talking about today we've got more than 250 consultants that are working in end-to-end planning and want to make sure that we deliver from demand planning production planning inventory management the classical topics that you know and that we then bring along to our customers to make sure that we get what we that you get apologies what you want delivered within the projects so far to implement but today we want to talk around PPDS and ePBDS specifically with regards to the solution so let's look at what we're doing today today we're very much unlocking the future of manufacturing as we said so getting you an understanding of what PPDS is actually about in Q1 we want to go on with what's transitioning from APO to S4 a question that we're being asked continuously that customers want to understand how do I do that sidecar solution do I implement an S4 first things like that we want to discuss there what are options what are the pros and cons to understand that Q2 is already planned with planning excellence in sub-EPDS how do I plan properly what are options what are solutions which challenges do you see in your projects and what's coming up and let's call that a strategic horizon and let's call that a strategic horizon Q3 2024 maybe even further out what are further topics that you want to see and in order to do that whilst we're going along that maybe already reflect on that because at the end of the webinar we also want you to give the opinion or to sorry to give your opinion with regards to what you want to see in the future meaning we will have a poll a mentee poll at the end where you can then initiate your ideas however as we can then initiate your ideas however as we said at the beginning today is the very first of that series of webinars so therefore when it comes to production planning and scheduling we want to understand a little where you're standing with regards to that because I'm pretty sure we will have some which are just starting that track maybe don't even have a production planning solution yet we've got some which might already be on Gladysel development team and with that from the present all of that and then we have a unique set of solutions in richtig design for reno-evend clear planning and everything facing this事情 Cool and thank youiktam is thatpine to them as text as well so looking at it and where we're standing welcome introduction we've just done we'll be heading on now with the introduction to eppds what it is where it comes from why do we actually need eppds looking into the box as it's called then in the next agenda point so taking a look at the demo looking into new innovations that just came up that we know some of you that have been using pbds really working off and are now available in eppds what the future holds so the outlook in terms of the roadmap as well as q and a at the end so let's hit it and go into the introduction of eppds we'll keep the poll open over the next couple of slides to make sure that you have the possibility to still post why would we actually care about production planning and scheduling i like that title of that slide and it's a very obvious question because production planning and scheduling doesn't come for free you need to do the implementation you've got license costs so there's got to be something around that and that something can simply be i've got no production i'm simply a wholesaler and therefore a simple snop sufficient for me but once it starts to become a little more complex you've got a finished good production maybe a semi-finished good production you've got some components which you're planning more or less on a day you've got a daily level that come relatively short term sometimes might be scarce of these you've got customer orders changing once it starts to become that complex you're then struggling really from a planning perspective to meet all your orders and miss order fulfillment because in these changing environments you can't take a look at each and every single bit and screw and dot all the time unless you're blowing up your planning organization tremendously but then i think it's an obvious one for a benefit case for these kind of solutions help you to streamline the efforts and very much work based on exceptions based on alerts and understand really your supply chain and understand your supply chain then helps you again when we look at for instance communication breakdowns to see when is semi-finished actually coming is it coming in time is it not coming in time or do i have issues let's say with regards to my production from an end-to-end perspective to see transparency around that furthermore specifically when it comes to the process industry that i've seen quite a lot of the attendees are coming from we see quite often dynamic change over times and depending on your portfolio these can be larger or smaller so therefore you're missing also potentials with your constrained resources under utilizing your resources your shop floor being finished friday around lunchtime because they were faster than they expected to and on the other hand you're struggling in the mid to long term so that you're still working on the mid to make sure you're working on your customers and your customers are the best for the customer and you're running the customer to actually deliver what you want what you need to customers so there's so many let's say so much complexity within supply chain specifically today and once it starts to become a bit of a bigger network when it comes to production we really need transparency around that and this is exactly where production planning and scheduling solutions come in and when we look at them what's actually in for you apart from obviously a better less tired planning organization we also see then quite significant benefits also on a financial slash quantitative basis i guess let's say the one in the middle is the obvious one that i just described in terms of delivery performance plan adherence making sure what you plan is what you deliver if you're planning on a weekly bucket it's pretty hard to say that if you're planning on a detailed level have transparency around my components are coming then it's a bit of a different one second one waiting time reduction i think is also pretty obvious because only if you know that components are there components are coming will your people and your resources be able to utilize them and these two the middle and the right then obviously also increase the output of your supply chain so that means specifically in complex and constrained scenarios planning solutions ppds planning solutions can really make a difference with regards to your financial figures and your financial perspective plus obviously being more reliable to your customers and then having also a better reputation within the market so far just let's say a couple of figures a glimpse with regards to what are potential benefits that can arise there's obviously a lot more depending also on your specific needs and your specific scenario and so far on a high level look with regards to why we actually need pbds and on that one let's dig down a little into what actually is pbds and we want to give you a quick introduction to eppds and we want to give you a quick introduction to eppds swen hand it over to you thank you jens for that great introduction and giving us some insights into the challenges we face in production but also the benefits we achieve when we have the right planning tool in place so i would like to give you some more insights into eppds now but before starting with that i would like to give you some background information on how everything started with api basically so in 1998 sap launched its first version of api and it was the flagship of sap it was for a long time it was the best practice planning tool in the market which was further developed over the years and in 2015 this era was a bit ending unfortunately with the last release the release of api however at that time sap also announced its new erp version called s4hana at the same time also ibp was launched and a lot of clients had then the question what what will happen to pbds and since it's so heavily involved as we all know into the execution processes it totally made sense that pbds the corresponding api was put into the core of s4hana and now being called embedded pbds the corresponding apo support that's also important to know will end by 2027 that means we also currently see a lot of clients in the in the need to move to that new system landscape talking about the new system landscape what does that exactly mean and how does it look like so we have a lot of clients in the new system so we have a lot of clients in the new system so we have api we have a couple of modules there right we have demand planning we have supply network planning called s&p those two modules were moved into ibp as so -called ibp for demand and ibp for supply and response and within supply and response also the order based planning part is located on the other hand side we have the global atp and that was also moved to the core of s4hana now being called advanced atp the pbds as already mentioned is now in the core of s4 now being called embedded pbds so we have not anymore two separate systems but it's integrated to each other the supply network the supply network collaboration part of api called snc got a separate module now being called sap arriva where you're doing all your supplier interaction in regards to purchasing with that system landscape you of course can still do your end-to-end planning processes however it comes with a lot more and i guess you're curious about where is which of those tools leading and what is it meant for i would like to give you some more insights into that so typically when we talk about end-to-end planning we have different planning horizons starting from the top we have a strategic level there we're doing the financial planning within sap analytics cloud the snop horizon is clearly in the responsibility of ibp so we're doing there the demand planning creating our forecast and matching that with our supply and also um we have the supply and response uh tool leading the tactical horizon i would say is kind of in shared responsibility or can be in shared responsibility we're in a��� I guess you're all now super curious about how does those tools all fit together on a more process level. Let me give you an example architecture about that. Starting from the top again, we have the sales and operations planning horizon. That's on a time series basis. As mentioned, we're doing our demand plan, matching that with our supply plan. And the main outcome is a constraint forecast. That constraint forecast, as we know, is handed over to the master production planning and operational network planning. This we would do in order based within that new system landscape. So we're trying to ensure we have the right capacities on a midterm horizon. We got the first sales orders and corresponding to that, we have our first planned orders and production orders created in order to make sure our sales orders are covered by production receipts. But also on the other hand side, from the component level that we have that in place. The main outcome of that is basically a feasible production plan that we hand over to EPBDS for the operational planning and detailed scheduling. EPBDS is still meant for and responsible for finding the right sequence of production orders by considering, for instance, setup times, labor capacity and so on and other production constraints. The execution will still happen in the EOP system. So in S4, the core, which is closely integrated to the MES system. And I guess you're also curious now what actually has changed from APO to EPBDS. And for all those APO lovers out there, don't be worried. If you have already a running solution in APO PPDS, you can basically copy, you can copy, paste that into S4 and it would work exactly the same. However, it comes with a lot more. So for instance, we've got new features like flexible constraints, which I will explain in a bit more detail later in the webinar. We got enhanced features like tank planning. That was a quite huge topic and it still is for improvement. We got a simplified integration. We got a simplified integration since it's embedded now. We have a simplified master data maintenance. So by just clicking basically on the corresponding master data, you make it PPDS relevant and plan those materials, for instance, in EPBDS. Also, for instance, we got a new MRP run called MRP Live, which is SAP Fiori, which has an improved performance. So we can run that more often because it just takes less time. And the last thing to highlight here is basically the user interface. We all know the good old GUI and we all love it, I would say. But we also got a new interface in addition to that called SAP Fiori, which is a web-based application. that comes with a lot of different new apps that comes with a lot of different new apps that on the one hand side has additional features you don't have in GUI, but also with enhanced visualization that makes the life of the planners easier. Having said that, that Fiori is quite a cool new interface for our production planners. We also prepared a little demo around that. So what we prepared is basically some simple production use cases we all probably know and aware of and how to resolve them purely in Fiori, the new interface of SAP. And for that, I would like hand over back to my colleague Jens to guide you through that demo. Yeah, thanks, man. Brilliant clustering of where PBDs is actually sitting in terms of technical IT architecture with regards to Ariba IBP, the S4 system on one side. Thanks also for explaining very much where it's sitting in terms of processes on that operational to tactical level. And I hope you all got a bit of an understanding with regards to what PBDs is meant for and where it's situated. But I guess you're all thrilled now to see what PBDs actually looks like or EPBDs. Let's call it precisely. And this is exactly where we're going to go. So as Sven already mentioned, we've put together a bit of a standard use case storyline. Yes, we'll explain in a second to give you an idea around features and objects, Fiori launchpad, what that actually is, where we stand with that. Showing you new functionalities around material coverage, where in the classical GUI, in the classical PBDs world, you've got alerts, you've got a product view, an MDO4, some of you might know these. But you've got new functionalities and new features that we will present to you today. Same around the capacity situation. Nevertheless, let's say availability charts, as well as alert monitors are still around, are still available. And let's take a look at these in a second. So let's take a look at these in a second. How we navigate through different, let's say, interactions and transactions and Fiori applications. The highlight, obviously, still being interactive planning. So the detailed planning board, which will also from our perspective, still be a core element of where planning actually happens. And then a bit of alternative resources and downtimes at the end. So therefore, let's take a look at that. And in order to do that, we've brought along Lisa, her responsibilities very much within production planning at mid to large size company. And Lisa wants to understand a little in terms of what she's doing. And in order to do that, we told Lisa, hey, it's actually pretty simple. What you do is you usually reflect on a day to day basis, a couple of basic steps to make sure that you run your production in a good manner and make sure everything's covered and your customer gets what you want. And therefore, the first thing we told Lisa is, let's take a look at what your material actually is. And do you have sufficient material on finish goods, semi-finish, but maybe also on component level? So start there. Take a look at what's your availability of the materials. Do you meet all your demands? And Lisa goes like, yes, okay, I might have to add a couple of things here and there. But what does that actually mean to my capacity? And then we said, Lisa, let's go into your capacity utilization. Let's check that. And see where things are heading. Okay, then you might sort some things out. And then take a look at your alerts. Are all orders fulfilled? Do we still have issues? Obviously, depending very much also on your personal setup, if we were to set it up for you. But at the end of the day, there might be one or two things which are still not ideal. And then go into your planning board, fix them. And at the end of the day, let's see if Lisa manages to fulfill all her orders and make everything work perfectly. So therefore, I'd like to hand over back to my colleagues in Copenhagen and please go on and start the demo. All right. Here you see the Fiori launch pad where you can find around 3000 SAP Fiori apps and around half of them is considered new analytical apps. Also around 9000 classic UI is out to be found. You could also call them classic GUI transaction, but this time in a browser version. You can either create your own homepage as we have done here for the webinar and select the Fiori apps you use most, or you can navigate through all these predefined groups to find the relevant Fiori apps. As a planner, you most certainly want to start the data or getting an understanding of the material coverage situation to ensure here the right balance between the demand and supply and the priorities as well. We would like to investigate if we can find or if you can do anything in the short or medium term or if we are to expect any shortages in general. Most of these questions can be answered by navigating to the material coverage app. Once you have entered DAP, the first thing you would do is select the right filtering. In our case, it will be what we are going to investigate and the material that is under our responsibility. Here in the section below, you see each of the selected material and their stock situation. And you can see it in a day format when it's going to reach the point of shortage and also in what quantity. In addition to this more tabular format, you are able to see it in a graphical way as well. Here the app brings the possibility to see the stock situation for the next 21 days where the shattered columns are the days in the weekend and the red column represents the day it would reach the point of shortage. You are also able to click directly on the graph to see the availability in a more accumulated way for the accumulated way for the selected material. Before jumping into any solution mode, you can do a quick sanity check between the lead time of the material and the time till shortage. This gives a quick indication of whether it can be solved simply by running an MRP and still stay compliant with the master data setup. In our case, if we for instance take the material 74 as an example, you can see that it has a returnable replacement lead time of 7 days and it will reach the point of shortage in 11 days. So you could say in according to our master data setup, we should be able to solve this issue simply by running an MRP. This can actually also be done directly from the app as well. Once you have selected the material, you can run an MRP in the right corner. You see, once the page has been refreshed, we no longer expect any shortage for material 74. And in general, when we have completed tasks like this in the app, there have been created some new plan orders based on the MRP setting. And we need, of course, to take a closer look on the consequences this might have had on our resources as the MRP is still planning with infinity level. We do so by jumping back to the homepage and navigating straight for the monitor capacity utilization app. Again, we start out by selecting the right filtering. In our case, it is our eight resources and the evaluation horizon of 21 days and the standard capacity utilization. We also see the right filter profile. The profile determines what kind of orders that are to be included in the load calculation. In the below section, we see the selected resources and each of their maximum, minimum and average capacity load. And we also get an indication of the first day we expect the overload and the first day we expect the under load. Or you could also say the first day without any activity. This is again in a tabular form and we also get an indication via a graph where you once again can press on the graph and get an accumulated utilization rate of the 21 days that we selected in the evaluation horizon. You also have the possibility to select an individual resource. This will bring you into a new view where you have a more sophisticated graph with the possibility to decrease or increase the number of days or even turn it into weeks. You can also change the point of view from the utilization rate into material order type or activity. In the next section we have the possibility to either add shifts, interval or downtime. And at the very last section we have the list of every operation that is currently scheduled on the resource. We can see the order number information around the time and also the quantity. And you have also the possibility to see if there is any operation issue at the moment. In this case you have a semi-finished grid that is around two hours delayed. You can also directly from here drag and drop and reschedule the operation and it will be done so by the scheduling settings that is stated here in the toolbar. We have now showed you a couple of ways to start out the day as a planner to get updated in regards to the material coverage situation, but also the capacity utilization on the resources and materials that you are responsible for. It is now time to navigate to the advanced scheduling board and from here we will actually continue the rest of the demonstration and we will try to act upon some of the information that we have gotten from the first two apps. When we call the advanced scheduling board app we will once again start out by selecting the right filtering. In our case we will have a horizon that is three days in the past and ten days into the future and the same eight resources as we saw in the previous app. The next step will be to select the charts that we find relevant. We have four gun charts and two time continuous charts and for this demonstration we will start out by selecting the resource chart. This chart gives the possibility to see all the planning objects that are scheduled for the planning and the different resources and each object is represented on the different resources and each object is representing some operations or some activities in the selected time horizon. And as you can see here in the middle of the screen each and every object do have multiple shapes and multiple colors and all these shapes and colors are to be explained here in the legend. As you can see we have a color green for setup, light blue is the plan orders and the purple is the production orders. In addition to these kinds of activities we also have some additional shapes. For instance this overlapping indicators which is represented by a red line below the object as you can see here in the graph. You can by expanding the icon next to the resource name see an example of multi loading and this is also why the overlapping indicators were present just before. The next chart that we will show is the product chart where we switch the perspective from the resource to the product itself. The chart as well gives some context into why plan orders might have been generated. This could be if it was due to some stock transfer orders, some sales orders or even some forecasts. As you can see here in the graph some new shapes are appearing compared to before. We have some triangles in different colors and once again if we navigate to the legend we can see exactly what this triangle is representing. We have the purple that is representing the sales orders and the orange is representing some forecasts. All of this new information can be very critical in terms of prioritizing. The last chart for now will be the resource utilization chart. It's a very simple but yet very effective way to get an exact overview of the capacity situation in the simulation mode we have entered and in addition to the monitor capacity utilization that we saw previously, this graph can show the load speed. This graph can show the load speed during different time intervals and that time interval is determined by the upper section you see here in the graph. One of the objective with detailed scheduling is of course to avoid this kind of overload and make sure that this chart is completely green in the short term. Now we got a better understanding of some of the charts and when to use them and what exactly the different shapes represents. And I think now it's time to get a deeper understanding of how to work with the advanced scheduling board. So the first thing we would do is switching back to the resource chart. And here the first thing we would do or like to do as a planner is to get a more realistic view of our planning horizon. This can be done by clicking on the new button called bird's eye in the upper right corner. And it enables us to see every operation and activity in the selected time horizon. Before we start working on any of these operations and activities we see in the resource chart, we should check our alert monitor. Down here in the very left corner we see a button called check alerts. Here you can file all the alerts generated by our predefined alert profile. And all the alert types are grouped or sorted such as the requirement and receptor alerts or in the past alerts. The alert brings a ton of value as we have a starting point of where we should put on our focus. And one of the major task is of course to complete as many alerts as possible. As always, should our focus be on our backlog to ensure that nothing is forgotten. And we do so by selecting the alert type ordering the past alert. And from here we can see all the orders that are currently affected. The tool gives us the possibility to jump straight to the alert type of alert. And by selecting a specific order. We can see that in the chart it is currently highlighted. Another way to do a sanity check is also to check the dotted line that goes through the chart as this is representing the current time. So if we have activities on the left side it should be correct that the order is starting in the past. In the advanced scheduling board app we do have multiple ways to do that. We can also to solve issues like this. We can either right click on the order. Press edit and do a rescheduling. Or you can simply drag and drop the affected order. And put them into the future. The functionality is pretty much the same. However if you decide to drag and drop it it will of course be affected by where you drop it. But if you now go to the alert monitor. Check the alert type order in the past. We can now see that the orders we had just before. Are nowhere to be found. The only orders that are left. Are the running production orders. Meaning we have solved the particular issues with those two orders. However because we are so close to the current time a good practice would have been to already have converted it into production orders. Also here the advanced scheduling board have multiple ways to do this. Again we can either right click on the order. Press go to. Go to the order. The order processing. The order processing. Which will take us or bring us to another view. Which might be familiar with some of you. And we can select the conversion indicators. We could also directly from the chart itself. Right click on the order. Press edit and set the conversion indicator. As you can see here the conversion indicators was successful. In order to see the order changing from the light blue to the purple. We need to adopt the proposal we have just created. And as you can see now the order has been converted to a production order. It is time for us to head back to the alert monitor. Because we do have another alert type for our backlog. This time it is operation alert. And as you can see here we do have a confirmation date missing for some of the operations in the past. However this time the shop floor people. However this time the shop floor people has just informed us. That a process message between our mess system. And our SAP system was stuck. And the IT was trying to fix the issue. In other words the order is confirmed. So in order not to be affected by any future rescheduling. We decide to mark the orders. And fix both of them. And as you can see the order are fixed. When you have a red line on top of the object. Besides the information about the stock process message. We were informed that they experienced issues. Under slow cutting resource. And would like to do maintenance. From the 15th till the 18th of November. Of course as we can see. This will affect our ongoing production order. 1382. Which is also one of the orders that we do see. We have in the past. However. Luckily for us. Luckily for us. We do have an alternative resource. That has just been. Maintained. And are ready to take on the operations. Without any kind of delay. In order to register. Downtime. On the resource. We need to right click on the resource. Press maintain resource. Go straight to the downtimes tab. And add whatever intervals. Are required. In our case it will be the 14th. 1600. Until the 18th of November. And we will put in a short description. And we will put in a short description. For our planned downtime. We go back to the scheduling board. As you can see the planned downtime is now visible in our scheduling board. And all the orders that were before. In this downtime period are pushed to the very end of the period. Before we can reschedule all the orders. We need to select each of them. We need to select each of them. And every one of them. Press right click on one of them. Or go to the scheduling tab. In the toolbar. And press reschedule. You can now see that every order. Placed on both the fast cutting resource. And the slow cutting resource. Once you have adapted. The request. It will only appears on one of the days. As you can see here. The information about. Whether there is an alternative. Resource. On the specific order. Is visible. When you select. An order. We also have it. Here on the heat resource. Select the order. Press the information button. And go. To the alternative resource. Here you can see that we have. Both the webinar heat. The next thing we will do. Is to run an. Height resource. O2. And it is currently placed. On the heat resource. O1. The last thing we will do. In this session. Is to run an SAP heuristic. Until now we have rescheduled orders. One by one. Because of prioritization. But now it's time to move the whole backlog. To no later than today. Of course one of the most important things. Before we do. Run an SAP heuristic. Is to ensure that. No one is actually working on these. Specific orders that lies in the past. Once this has been confirmed. Once this has been confirmed. We are able to do. The SAP heuristic scheduling. We will do so. By pressing on the heuristic. On the toolbar. We will go select. The relevant. Sub heuristic. In this case. It is remove backlog. We will execute it. And we can see that. We do not have any errors. In our planning log. We return. To the. Planning board. We can now see that. We can now see that. All the orders. Are on the right side. Of the dotted line. Which indicates that. No orders is currently in the past. We can also see it. If we go to the alert monitor app. The only confirmation that is missing. Is the one that we have already agreed upon. Were confirmed. And if we change the alert type. To orders in the past. We only have one order left. And this order is the exact same. Order as the one. Where we have an outstanding. Confirmation from. We can now conclude. That the backlog. Has been resolved. Besides the backlog. One of our main tasks. Was also to avoid the overload. On our resources. If we again head back to our alert monitor. We can find the alert type. PBDS resource alert. Here we can see. That we do have more. multiple resources. Multiple resources. With a status overload. And it is also visible. Just by looking. At the resource chart. If you remember. Every time there was a red line. Below the object. It was a status of. Overlaping indicator. Ultimately we can also add. The resource utilization graph. Where you also are able to see. That we do have some of the red areas still. So this will be. So this will be. The next task. For us. So so. By using another. Sub-heuristic. We can both solve. The capacity load issue. And also secure. That our priority one orders. Are completed. On time. One of the very great features. About ePBDS. Is that. You are able to prioritize. Order based on the requirement type. When a plan order. For example. Are packed with a sales order. Or forecast quantity. A priority is given. In our case. If a production order. Or a plan order. Are picked with a sales order. It has a priority of one. When it is picked with a forecast. It has the priority of zero. This information can be found. In the operation information screen. Order by order. If we for example. Take this order. Go to the information. Go straight to the order. We are able to see that this order. Do have an order priority of one. If we go to the pick requirement. We can see that this order. Is also picked. With a sales order. And as mentioned. If we run a sub-heuristic. For this. We can solve both issues. If we go to the toolbar. And select the heuristic. Button once again. Again we will. Select the heuristic. That is relevant for the task. In this case. It is sequence. Manually. Or scheduled sequence manually. Select the heuristic. And press execute. At the left side. We can see. All the orders. That is. All the orders. That are in. The planning. Period. We are. We are. Working with. We start out. By swapping pages. We select. The requirement type. In an ascending order. We take the priority. In a descending order. So we have. All the priority. One orders. At the top. And we then take. The requirement date. In an ascending order. In this way. We ensure. That all the priority. One orders. Are in the correct sequence. In regards to the date. And the time. At the same time. We then swap back. And we do. Scheduling. Again. We can see. We do not have. Any issue. In the planning log. And if we return. To the planning board. You will now be able. To see the result. Of our planning. You can now see the result. Of the SAP heuristic run. And as you can see. There is no overlapping indicators anymore. Neither are you able to. Expand the multi loading. On the resources. If we go to the alerts. You can also see. That. That the PBDS alerts. Are gone. And if we add. The resource utilization chart. As a final. You can also see. That there is no longer. Any red areas. To see. We are now able. To say. That we have completed. The overload capacity situation. We have just concluded. That the over capacity situation is resolved. But what about the prioritization. Instead of having the. Utilization chart visible. We will. Now instead. Choose the product chart. And as you can see here. If you take. The product view. Of the chart. We do have. Multiple sales orders. That are placed. In the beginning. Of the period. But if we need to check. Whether it has been resolved. We can right click. On each of the orders. Press show. And show the pegging relationship. And as you can see. As long as the plan order. Is on the left side. Of the sales order. It means that. The sales order. Are not. Going to be. Interrupted. By any delays. So also here we can conclude. That the prioritization part. Is also resolved. To the extent that is possible. That's something. That's something. We want to start.bench Of you. To the extent that. Some. quedar on a fight report. To the extent that. And this is something. To the detriment as aueller. Of course. So reverse. MM. and welcome back in Munich. First of all, thank you very much to Copenhagen for showcasing EPBDS and what it looks like. I think it is a new, cool, intuitive GUI that SAP has launched with the Fiori launchpad and configurable for the planners, what you want to see, which tiles you want to see. So let's say quite some new functionality that's been added there and continuously is being developed further and further. But as Sven already mentioned, the classical GUI, we all love it. We've all grown up with it. In project, really, it has to be decided what goes where, what goes into classical, what goes into Fiori. I think that's very much then details when it comes to an actual implementation. But first of all, yes, again, thank you very much for, let's say, my colleagues in Copenhagen. What we've seen is features and objects. Let's say a couple of, let's say, discussions and details around that, what the Fiori launchpad looked like. I think a cool new feature is material coverage because it gives you across the different materials a clear visibility around where you actually have issues and a similar approach to the capacity situation. Less detailed, less granular than you have it in the classical CDPS Rept that some of you might know. But let's say on a nice focused chart or let's say tabular view with regards to where things are heading and where issues might have to be resolved. Alert Monitor and the interactive planning board, which is live and usable in ePBDS and can provide you with a nice Fiori version of what it actually looks like. So, whilst we've had the demo and also prior to that, we've already seen quite a lot questions coming in. So thank you very much really for your interactive participation there. We're thrilled. And we do have three good guys sitting in Copenhagen that I can see on that screen over there, which already have bleeding fingers, that are doing their best to answer these questions. I'm very, very pessimistic that we'll answer all of them by the end of the session since it's so many. So therefore, we will definitely follow up with all the questions that you have. If we can't do it in today's webinar, then we will have to do that as a follow up and send that out to you after the session. So don't be scared. All questions that you post that you hit will be taken care of, if not immediately right now, then at a later point of time. Good. So let's continue a little with regards to the agenda and see where we're standing. Welcome introduction. We've done. We've had a bit of an understanding with regards to what PBDS actually is, what it looks like, what are key functionalities out of the old PBDS world and what go comes in with the new PBDS world. We've had a look in the box as we called it. So the demo, and now we're looking a little into what have been recent innovations. I already mentioned it at the beginning. In the classical APO world, there were good features and there was a lot that we could do, but there were always a couple of white spots and a couple of white spots with regards to can I not maybe have time dependent master data or tank planning that Sven already mentioned that will take a look at the next step. Okay, and this is a little bit of a short break. So this is a big chunk of what we will look at later on today. So therefore we also need to get an understanding, let's say we forgot so what are recent innovations that have come across. Starting off with EPBDS what it actually is, what it should do, and how you can really achieve true end to end supply chain planning with it. I think one of the key elements really is, and that has been very much a strength of the old PBDS but it's also a strength of the new EPBDS. Now we do have realtime integration with EPBDS with but obviously also since it's sitting in there with your core S4 system so therefore you immediately have transparency across all different layers with regards to where things are heading if you change a plan was that good was that bad let's figure that out immediately including discussions with your colleagues from purchasing or from automation so that really makes working much more efficiently than a batch update twice a day where you then need to wait and see what was the implication of my last change of plans and this goes along then very much also with exception based planning an exception based planning is obviously focusing on exceptions so therefore I've need something that is taking care of it upfront and that is detailed scheduling not only do we have heuristics that you've had in the past which you can use migrate over into ePBDS if you've already used them in the classical APO world and can based on that still build your production plan we've got the DS optimizer which some of you might be using some might not one of the reasons maybe was an additional server to provide SAP thinking about maybe in the midterm the optimizer as a service because it's not used very often but there you've got good capabilities with regards to heuristics or algorithms however you call them and optimizing functionalities in order to generate a schedule that's feasible that can be done and that has taken the necessary constraints into consideration so constraint planning making sure we consider our labor we consider machines potentially even tools if they're really important these are exactly the kind of things that can be taken into consideration to make sure and this is where we're coming back to exception based planning I can focus on what the system planned is to a wide degree doable I then go into my alert monitor take a look what else do I need to take care of the last couple of three four five orders and here you go we do that we arrange change that we hit the save button and you're done and that's exactly what ePBDS is about and that in combination with a seamless integration already mentioned not only to SAP but also to SAP advanced ATP make sure that you promise to your customers what's actually doable and that a ATP comes in you can rely on the result you can promise to your customers concrete dates which regards to yes I can make that yes I can make that yes I can fish or reduce the ad or no at a certain point of time and therefore being much more agile with regard to customer communication supporting also your order management and having a nice end-to-end process which is very efficiently on exception-based planning with a high degree of information automation everyone knows what's going on and if an order comes in and the customer wants to order something you can tell them yes you get it or no earliest in three or four weeks and this is exactly where pbds or e pbds can support you in your way forward when it comes to production planning and entry plan so far looking at that let's go a little into let's say what is the next generation sven will dive into a couple of these in more detail in a second but with regards to integration and master data setup i already mentioned a couple of these let's say time dependent master data we will always focus in on one lot size let's look at if i've got a seasonality i might have to produce less in my low season than in my high season so these kind of things are now possible to be integrated either from a safety stock perspective midterm sap is also discussing further master data to be time dependent so that very much is a key game changer real-time integration we already said to sub idp makes the entire planning process a lot more robust and everyone has the necessary information simplified master data set up for instance also and that's the second point next to it with regards to the improved setup matrix generation makes it a lot easier in the past we all know a setup matrix was very handy specifically in the process industry dynamic change over times but very often maintained quite poorly because the maintenance process was tedious and has just taken so much time and then a reflection is it correct is it not correct was my assumption behind the rules right and things like that so it was very tedious to maintain that a lot so far so far so far so far so far to the integration master data and it setup with regards to operational planning and scheduling i think one of the key changes is not only do we now have a detailed scheduling optimizer let's look at we've got an order we can reschedule it potentially also another resource we were never really able to adjust lot sizes specifically when it comes to alignments between semi-finished and finished good production this is where sap launched additionally now the pp production planning optimizer is the first and then we've got the current features we want to have a little bit of an overview about uh the current features of e-pbs um we selected now a couple of features where we want to deep dive and give you some more detailed information uh the first one uh we were selecting is called flexible constraints and it's a functionality that strengthen the integration between ibp and e-pbds uh so called synchronized harmonized it's it's a quite huge and important topic to also ensure a proper end-to-end planning and whenever we take decisions in ibp we also want them to be considered in eppds and flexible constraints is a feature that actually is strengthen that that muscle with flexible constraints you define a target supply in ibp meaning it's it's kind of a safety stock target stock you define in ibp dependent on your production constraints and that target supply you hand over to eppds which is then considering that target supply and how is it doing it it's basically using a uh heuristic called flexible constraints instead of the classical product heuristic we might all know for creating basically the received elements where can you use that um for instance when you want to pre -produce or postpone or pre-bone production because you have for instance capacity constraints then this would be the right tool it could also be that your supplier has capacity constraints and you need to consider that um also here you could use that heuristic within the planning run for instance the second feature we want to highlight here is called multi-level time buffer that is more going into the direction of simplification or improvement of improvement of the scheduling activities because it gives a lot of more insights when it comes to rescheduling so imagine you're having orders where you have connections between each other but also on one order between operations you have connections that you need to consider and then like typically in production something happen is happening and you need to reschedule your operations or your orders and with that multi-level time buffer basically um you get insights and information about downward or upward impact or violations in case of rescheduling so you exactly know how much can you reschedule an operation or an order without impacting downward or upward operation orders i would say that simplifies all the rescheduling activities and reduces also the effort for planners um also the effort for planners uh and you could use that for recognizing for instance your backlog so where you where you need to take actions but also in case of exceptions it helps you uh prioritizing um the third feature and uh this is one of my favorite topics basically is called uh tank planning we had that already in apo yes uh but uh but uh as i already said it was a quite huge topic for sap which they heavily improved over the last couple of years uh so when we come to tank planning it comes with a enhanced visualization um for instance you can call the uh a tabular view out of the planning board directly which is giving you more information about the filling and draining operations and the alternative mode usage and selection and selection was simplified and one thing that wasn't possible before in in in the apo times is basically that you want to assign one operation to multiple output tanks meaning that you either your order quantity is too big or your tanks are too small um whatever case it is you can assign that one operation to multiple output tanks or the r way around uh also filling from multiple tanks into into one order uh another cool thing i want to highlight is that you also getting tank planning considered during automated planning so by using for instance the s optimizer it's getting considered uh so it it's also reducing gap by there uh the the manual effort by the for the planners the last one the last one i want to highlight is the pp optimizer for existing apo customers they might know it under the name of the smp optimizer and you can see this pp optimizer as an addition to the ds optimizer the ds optimizer is taking care about the right sequence by considering minimum setup times or storage costs and so on and so forth so it's taking care about the right sequence the pp optimizer however ensures the end-to-end material flow from a component to a finished good level for your production network and it ensures that the right order is at the right quantity at the right location at the right time basically by considering costs demands already already already already having receipts or stocks and is finding basically the most cost-effective solution uh so also quite a cool feature um that we can use within production planning now after we gave you quite a big overview about the current features i would like to emphasize here again how important ppts is currently for sap and it will be for sap and it will further develop uh and enhance it over the next years since it's a highly strategic topic that is not only proved because of the current features and the newest developments we just showed but also when we take a closer look at what brings the future for us and of course eppds so um i would like to give you some more insights into the the roadmap and i would like to give you some more insights into the roadmap topics and i also saw that question on the chat uh so you can also call the sap roadmap explorer where you can see all those road roadmap topics that are uh planned by sap and will be released over the next years but let's jump into that um only when we take a look at fiori for instance we see that um it will be further enhanced and developed so um as i said by next year uh they enable the configuration of the advanced scheduling board so uh basically the the planning board and the gui is the advanced scheduling board in fiori and you also saw that during the demo so for instance by then you can also uh configure uh configure and customize your graphical objects based on different order statuses uh also in addition you get a renewed uh fiori product overview tank planning will be enabled for the advanced scheduling board you get renewed alerts and also renewed uh plan monitor um so quite some cool cool things to look forward to um um one thing i'll see you um one thing i already highlight it highlighted is basically the integration between ibp and eppds is is a super important topic to truly get end-to-end planning in a harmonized uh process between ibp which is for the long-term mid-term horizon and eppds which is in the operational planning at home uh so for instance we will also see some uh uh key figure integration to eppdbs so they're currently also working on that and um yeah there there is is more to come i would say also when we take a look at 2025 and ahead there will be more things to come and i would like to point out two things here the first one is the uh generative ai uh that will be used to increase the interpretive the reputation of dpp and the ds optimizer as well as enhancing the usability of it so uh something to look forward to and one of my favorite topics is uh kpis uh we have of course the plan monitor but we still have there's some white spots so they will also provide a proper reporting around key scheduling data uh for example we have plan adherence uh which is quite an important KPI. So how much do I stick to the plan I committed to? We also see there quite some enhancements. Overall, we just see that there will a lot come over the next years. They will continuously work on improving and enhancing the ePBDS solution also closely integrated to IVP. So let me quickly summarize what we can expect over the next couple of releases or years. We get an improved user interface as a so-called Fiori, which is already there, but it's getting enhanced and enhanced. We get new features for planning, especially for process industries like tank planning, flexible constraints, multi-level time buffer, all those things. KPI is a third big topic that we can include the reporting and the tracking within ePBDS also on an operational level. The fourth huge topic is the synchronization and the harmonization of IVP and ePBDS. So the tactical layer with the operational level is the so-called that we get key figures from IVP integrated into ePBDS and automatically considered. And also when we take a look at the automated planning features as the so-called generative AI, what I mentioned, we will see there quite some improvements. So overall, I would say we can look forward to what comes next over the next years by SAP and can be really curious about it. We're at the end of the strategic topics of SAP and what we will see over the next releases. So I would like hand over back to my colleague Jens to, yeah, kind of open already now the Q&A, but give us one or two minutes before we're jumping in the Q&A session. Exactly. Yes. Looking into that, thank you very much, Sven, for pointing out, let's say, all the strategic initiatives that SAP is looking at, much more integration, also loads of innovative topics on the roadmap that they're working on. And just to add one thing to that, and we see that quite a lot, the roadmap has significantly grown over the last one and a half years. So that indicates very much the strategic importance that SAP really holds with SAP ePBDS and making sure it's completely committed to it in the future and making sure that there will also be new innovations coming along with that. So yeah, on that one, as we said at the beginning, you've now heard a couple of minutes, a bit more than an hour with regards to what ePBDS is, where things are heading, what have been recent innovations, as well as the outlook in terms of where things are going. And when we're looking about the outlook in terms of Q1, Q2, Q3, what we have planned, we would like your input a little bit with regards to that. So meaning transforming APO to S4. I think it's, let's call that operational planning. So we've got the headline, but maybe there are certain details where you want to drill down that you want to understand. To tactical planning, planning excellence, is there certain topics that you'd like to be reflected? How do I plan this, this and that, maybe within a certain scenario? If you have these topics already and are curious around that, please shoot them in a minute when we open up the mentee. As well as strategic topics. What are, what are you talking about? up from your perspective really topics that you want to see want to be let's say reflected so for you let's be honest it's your one time chance to book a consultant for free and practically so use that chance and give us a couple of ideas with regards to what you want to see in the upcoming mentee so uh we'll leave that on also during the q a and therefore please feel free to use that chance and go into let's say discussions with us around what you want to see in future so in case you missed it here it comes again so you still have also during the q a still the option and the chance to go into the mentee in case anyone is experiencing issues please post in the chat but we've tested it just five minutes ago should be working good so far so good um looking at the q a up until here thanks very much then it's been a pleasure let's see what questions we have um i'll just pick a couple of these um that have been posted in the chat does eppds have the same scheduling method options as apopdds the clear answer first of all is yes with regards to heuristics with regards to optimizer plus even some enhancements that swam was just showing looking at for instance pp optimization looking also at tank planning functionality so there is more functionalities even than you have in let's say the classical in brackets version with the ppds on aposite however the fiori user interface that's something very important to mention is a little more standardized than we're used to it from the classical gui with regards to making adjustments to it maybe even an implicit enhancement in a user interface things like that there is a little limited options with regards to that but from a general scheduling functionality perspective there is a lot more let's say compared to what you were to be used in the past but what you had in the past can still be used so the good news is from a migration perspective from your conceptual scheduling perspective you can take that along and don't have to reinvent the entire wheel so i'm going to be able to do so and you can take that along and don't have to do it right um hope that answers your question let's look at the next one in terms of implementation timeline what is the typical duration duration for rolling out sub epds from licensing acquisition to full system deployment yeah i think i need to split that in a couple of topics first of all very much it depends classical consultant's answer how long your licensing negotiations with sap take also let's say something hard to influence from our side but let's assume that you were already on an s4 system and we're talking about the implementation in terms of design phase thinking about what concepts need to be migrated need to be done um we're talking typically around a timeline of three to six months for a pilot of one or two sites and then obviously depending on the rollout criteria how many sites you have how similar are these are these completely different from a setup perspective uh then obviously to be discussed a little more in detail with regards to that i hope that answers um this question um can we use our existing master data from ecc apo or do we need to rebuild our master data structure generally speaking yes when i say generally speaking what's obviously not supported is additional fields that you've added these need to be recreated i guess that's a blatantly obvious one same goes for any other enhancements that you've been doing to some standard transactions be the product view or something similar however let's say whilst you're doing that migration process it's at least worth to have a quick stop breathe in and think about does all of that still make sense do i still need all of that or is there certain topics where you say these we should reflect maybe from a how we structure our recipes or how we build our setup matrices things like that should be quickly held back make a and then just a quick stop think about is that still valid in 2024 um and if the answer is yes then you can migrate it over relatively easy because the data structure is the same then there's the classical question around the sif if there still is a sif the sif um since we do have different levels of knowledge on that webinar is the interface the core interface as it's called between r3 and the APO world where all data that's of sif isgan and there is a side that and then you're there yes withtal as general downloaded on theinson and then you see a C 2 period of time and victory sir well to maintain in terms of integration models what needs to go over what does not need to go over for instance from product master perspective once it's set up it's more or less simply a tick to activate an additional tap and based on that you can then use that additional information so the clear answer is yes and no so yes it's still there technically but no it's a lot easier from a setup perspective and also the integration perspective do you foresee major limitations restrictions of e -pbds in respect respect to manufacturing model does discrete process industry repetitive let's say the restrictions that we have on e-pbds and limitations that we have on e-pbds are similar to what we've had in the classical pbds world apart from a couple of topics which have obviously been challenged and tackled like tank planning which was a huge topic in the recent past like we've seen with the pp optimizer to align across the different stages so there is still some limitations that we see but let's say they haven't really changed compared to the classical apo pbds based world um then we have the question in terms of give me one second where was that does e-pbds follow the s4 release cycle um yes it does so generally speaking i think that's an obvious answer if you are following the let's say classical s4 and pbds world there is the so-called sidecar option which is decoupled for that for anyone who doesn't know what the so -called sidecar option is sidecar option is very much utilizing an e-pbds additionally to your existing r3 system which has some benefits because you can obviously do that migration make use of the functionalities already up front and then already have your concepts built up you've got your ideas nevertheless obviously still needs some let's say master data build once you do the migration from r3 to us for them but nevertheless let's say it is a good option as an intermediate solution um whilst you're still on your r3 system however that part is following a bit of a different release cycle yeah and typically uh always in q4 each year the on-prem release will be launched by sap and e-pbs is also following that the the on-premise version yeah i guess that also the answer is the question with regards to do we need to rebuild our master data um or ads on top of that with regards to specific uh around the site corruption all right um i guess there's loads and loads more questions coming in on that one what i would say in order to give you an adequate answer and uh let's say sufficient answer to you and also reflect it properly whilst we're going along um with regards to the q and a there's a lot already answered by our colleagues sitting copenhagen um i hope we have answered most of these i don't have the perfect overview but therefore from my perspective i'd say we take the rest of the questions with us uh do these in a proper follow-up afterwards we could answer a couple of questions now in that in that live setup nevertheless thank you very much for posting all of these and as i said very much promising that we will take care of these and uh um and give you an idea around that so again also to you sven for um presenting all the interesting insights into where pbs is standing where it's heading again also very much thank you to our colleagues in copenhagen for on one side bleeding fingers with regards to answering questions i can see them all lying on the floor they're completely tired and can't make it anymore no just joking um and obviously also to our colleagues running the demo and as well as well as to our technical setup in the background thank you andreas for that and uh yes it's been an absolute pleasure stay tuned and uh look forward to our new and upcoming webinars and we are very much looking forward to what you want to see on the as we have called it strategic agenda thank you very much and on that one we are closing down in munich for today thank you very much and wish you a nice rest of the day bye-bye thank you bye